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Baffling Move by CVE Makes VetBiz Process Much Harder

by Sarah Schauerte

Today I received an email from the Center for Verification and Evaluation (CVE). I wasn’t surprised, as I had recently heard of many veterans advocates and organizations receiving similar ones.

I simply hoped it wasn’t true. This new development hurts every veteran applying for VetBiz verification that needs guidance.

Here’s what the email said:

“Dear Ms. Schauerte

CVE is highly supportive of the Verification Counselor program as this program provides a valuable service to Veterans who are going through the application process. CVE provides responses to counselor inquiries as a means to inform applicants about the Veterans First Contracting Program. However, 5 CFR § 2635.702(c) prohibits agency endorsements of any product, service or enterprise. Accordingly, CVE’s resources are not available to certified Verification Counselors who are currently accepting fees for their counseling services. CVE Certified Counselors found to be charging a fee will be removed from the VETBIZ website.

A review of organizations listed on the VETBIZ website was conducted. Your website (https://legalmeetspractical.com/va-vetbiz-verification-program/va-vetbiz-applications/) indicates a fee is being charge for Verification Counselor services. In light of this, your name has been removed from the VETBIZ website as a CVE Certified Counselor.

Kind regards,
Center for Verification and Evaluation (CVE).”

Here’s the issue.  I never charge for initial consultations and am always happy to help with questions (which is what being a counselor entails – note that the CVE stated that “a fee is being charge[d] for Verification Counselor services, but that is inaccurate). I chose this career for a reason – I am a veterans advocate and I care about the veterans. However, I cannot work for free, always, and afford to live. As such, I charge if I am spending hours upon hours putting together a VetBiz application or a request for reconsideration. This is helpful for both me and for veterans – I am able to make a living doing something about which I am passionate, and veterans receive much-needed guidance.

In reality, this change will likely affect me little because I am easy to find through my website. I appreciate being listed, but it’s not necessary.
However, veterans who are relying on the CVE’s website to find a counselor will have difficulty. That is incredibly frustrating because the VA is completely misconstruing the regulation [5 CFR § 2635.702(c)] it relies upon in removing “paid” counselors. This statute states: “An employee shall not use or permit the use of his Government position or title or any authority associated with his public office to endorse any product, service or enterprise.” No individual employee is involved in this situation, and a review of the case law shows cases where an individual government employee was acting, not a department as a whole.
Further, listing counselors on the CVE’s website or providing answers to their questions (inquiring into the regulations, to relay to veterans) in no way endorses them. The CVE disagrees with this – I saw one response to a “fee-based” counselor’s question where the response was essentially, “sorry, we can’t give you an answer. That would be an endorsement.” If the CVE still thought that posting the counselors online constitued an “endorsement,” it could spend thirty seconds posting a disclaimer stating that the listing does not constitute an endorsement.
Last, the statute goes on to provide an exception to the general rule against endorsement: “(No agency employee may endorse except…) As a result of documentation of compliance with agency requirements or standards or as the result of recognition for achievement given under an agency program of recognition for accomplishment in support of the agency’s mission.” (5 CFR 2635.702(c)(2)). This exception applies!
Here, these counselors have received training by the CVE in order to become qualified as counselors, and they must pass an examination prior before being listed on the website. They are also in most cases not charging a fee – I don’t know of any counselor who charges a veteran who calls with questions about the VetBiz process. I myself have fielded about ten calls over the last few months, and I never charge for those types of initial consultations. Now, because of the CVE’s application of this regulation, veterans will have far fewer resources to turn to in attempting the verification process.
If the counselors being removed were ones that always charged a fee, I could to a degree see where the VA is coming from (even if it was still misapplying the regulation). However, this isn’t the case.
This development is a huge step backwards, and I urge veterans and advocates to contact Tom Leney, the Executive Director for Veterans and Small Business Programs, at [email protected]. I also ask you to please pass this article on.
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All Aboard the Titanic! OSBDU Decision Reflects Larger Problems

by Sarah Schauerte

I truly want the Veterans First Contracting Program to fulfill its mission of helping veteran-owned small businesses. But protests like this one worry me that the program is sinking instead of swimming.

On January 5th, the second-lowest bidder for a VA contract appealed the Center for Verification and Evaluation’s (“CVE”) denial of its status protest to the Executive Director of the Office of Small and Disadvantaged Business Utilization (“OSBDU”). Harbor Services, Inc. was relying on a determination made by the Small Business Administration (“SBA”) on December 12, 2013. The SBA had concluded that the awardee (Nacci Construction Services, Inc., or “Nacci”) and another corporation, Coleman Construction, Inc. (“CCI”) were affiliated. Even so, the CVE denied the initial status protest, deciding that the evidence showed that the veteran still controlled Nacci (ie, that no undue dependence on CCI by Nacci existed).

In affirming the initial decision of the CVE, the Executive Director again found that Nacci’s and CCI’s relationship did not make Nacci ineligible for the Veterans First Contracting Program. It found no issues with Nacci’s corporate documents (which enabled the veteran to control the business decisions), and it also found it acceptable that a non-veteran (Mr. Coleman, the owner of CCI) possessed a critical license required for Nacci to perform jobs. Also, it did not find undue reliance despite the fact that CCI had served as a subcontractor on 12 of Nacci’s last 32 jobs.

Again, this is all despite the fact that the SBA had already determined that the two corporations were affiliated for purposes of determining size. Keep in mind that in determining affiliation, the CVE has adopted the same definition used by the SBA. So how was this affiliation not enough to disqualify Nacci from the Veterans First Contracting Program and the solicitation?

This isn’t a rhetorical question. I really want to know. Under the CVE’s own regulations at 38 CFR 74.2(e), any firm found ineligible due to an SBA protest decision is to be immediately removed from the VetBiz VIP database, unless that protest is overturned or the CVE receives official notification that the firm has successfully overcome the grounds for the negative determination.

In addition to the frustration the affiliation inconsistency creates, the CVE’s analysis is hard to read because I am a verification counselor. By far and away, the largest issue for mom-and-pop companies seeking verification is the lack of meat and detail to explain bright line rules. CVE found that the critical license wasn’t an issue here, but meanwhile a small company seeking verification might be denied because a non-veteran uses a license under the veteran’s direction. There’s no guidance for how the CVE determines that a non-veteran holding a license isn’t grounds for denial, other than a very, very generally-phrased regulation.

And why was it fine for CCI to serve as a subcontractor on 12 out of 32 jobs? What’s the cutoff or the criteria? Does the length of the period of performance and the contract dollar value factor in?

This decision reflects a much bigger problem with the Veterans First Contracting Program. There is a disconnect with the SBA, and the CVE’s regulations are hard to understand for lack of detailed guidance to give them actual meaning.

For years, veterans advocates have complained that this ship is sinking instead of sailing, and these kinds of decisions further their point. So when this Titanic sinks, who will it take down with it?

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